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Officially Unveiling ‘Rock Island in Arkansas’ as a Podcast

After decades of recording interviews to document the stories of former employees of the Rock Island Railroad, I’m proud to officially release a podcast called the “Rock Island in Arkansas.” I’ve produced two episode, but only yesterday was it officially listed as a podcast available for download or to be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts. With a lot of material recorded and ongoing developments in the preservation of the Rock Island Depot at Perry, I hope to package a new episode once every few weeks. I also would welcome the opportunity to talk with more former Rock Island employees who would be willing to share their experiences.

The photo featured for the artwork of the podcast comes courtesy of Bill Pollard, showing a westbound Rock Island train at the Missouri Pacific’s HH crossing just south of Union Station in Little Rock.

Discussing Caves with Author Michael Ray Taylor during 2020 Six Bridges Book Festival

Unfortunately the COVID pandemic led to the 17th annual Six Bridges Book Festival being held virtually this year. I’ve been a regular moderator over the years for the event hosted by the Central Arkansas Library System. This year I spoke remotely with Michael Ray Taylor, author of Hidden Nature: Wild Southern Caves, on Oct. 23. It was a fascinating discussion on caves, what they can tell us about the past, his own adventures, and advice for beginners and experienced cavers.

Rock Island in Arkansas, Episode 2: History of the Perry Depot

Since getting involved in a project three years ago to preserve the Rock Island depot in Perry, Arkansas, I’ve been recording interviews with former employees of the railroad and others who have had connections to the building. The depot, which we believe was built in 1918,  was slated to be torn down in 2017. But, thanks to the efforts of the Perry County Historical and Genealogical Society, Preserve Arkansas, and the financial support of many donors and a grant from the state, it is being preserved. The wooden building, which is in surprisingly good condition, has been moved to an adjacent lot, placed on a newly-constructed foundation, and the roof has been replaced.

A westbound passenger train approaches the Perry depot in 1960. This photo was taken from the cab of a Budd Rail Diesel Car by Rock Island company photographer Ed Wojtas.

This podcast, which is the second episode in a series I’ve been slowly producing, tells the history of the Perry depot through first-hand accounts. I feature memories from Buford Suffridge, who has been leading the restoration effort, and Danny Majors, the son of longtime Depot Agent Joe Majors. I also include former Rock Island employees John Henderson, Bill Anderson and Mike Childers. It’s an effort to preserve the stories of those who remember when this was part of a major rail link. Millions of people probably rode over this spot when it was part of the Rock Island’s sunbelt line linking Memphis, Tennessee and Amarillo, Texas.

The plan is for the depot to eventually serve as a community meeting place and museum, telling the story of the community and the Rock Island. But there is still a lot more work to do before that can become a reality.

A lot of the stories featured in this podcast focus on Joe Majors and what it’s like being a depot agent in a small town alongside a major rail line. I hope the image here, which was shared by his son Danny, will someday be featured on a large display inside the depot.

Longtime Perry Depot Agent Joe Majors with his pipe and pocket watch poses for a photo outside the wooden station. He worked here from about 1950 until the Rock Island was shut down in 1980. Photo courtesy of Danny Majors.

A future episode of the “Rock Island in Arkansas” will tell story of the depot being the headquarters for the shortline Little Rock & Western Railway, which was created after the Rock Island was shut down. The program will also include details on our effort to preserve the depot so that it can become a community meeting place and museum.

You can read more about the project to preserve the depot as it has progressed here. I’ll also have an important update soon as the Arkansas Historic Preservation Program is to consider nominating the Perry depot to the National Register of Historic Places at a meeting on Dec. 2, 2020.

This episode was produced with the assistance Dr. J. Bradly Minnick, features the music of central Arkansas musicians Jim Mize, Fret & Worry and a classic recording of the song “Rock Island Line” by Leadbelly. You can listen to the first episode of the podcast here.

Issues That Matter: On the Ballot and in the Voting Booth

Any presidential election year draws a lot of attention, but with this year’s especially bitter fight between President Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden, mixed with concerns about voting during the pandemic, there are a lot of questions from voters. Ahead of the November election, I hosted the latest edition of Issues That Matter, a periodic series hosted by KUAR, the Central Arkansas Library System and the League of Women Voters. Previous forums have been held in-person at libraries, but given the pandemic, for the first time this one was done virtually.

This forum was focused on ballot questions to be decided by voters. There were initially six questions to be put before voters, but one was knocked off the ballot by the Arkansas Supreme Court just hours before we held the program. Two others were also disqualified. The three proposals left for Arkansas voters to consider are:

  • Issue 1: Continues a 0.5 percent sales tax for transportation
  • Issue 2: Changes term limits to twelve consecutive years for state legislators with the opportunity to return after a four-year break
  • Issue 3: Changes initiative process and legislative referral requirements

Also featured was a member of the Pulaski County Election Commission who spoke about concerns from voters about getting absentee ballots and safety while voting at in-person polling locations.

The Issues That Matter program was streamed live on Facebook on Sept. 17, and we took questions from viewers. The forum was also broadcast on KUAR this past week.

 

New Roof Completed on Rock Island’s Perry Depot, Historic Designation is Next Goal

Buford Suffridge, president of the Perry County Historical & Genealogical Society, in front of the depot on August 3, as work to replace the roof was underway. Unless otherwise noted, all photos by Michael Hibblen.

(Aug. 24, 2020) – Another major step has been accomplished in a project to preserve the century-old Rock Island Railroad depot in Perry, Arkansas. On Monday, August 3, a roofing crew spent a sweltering day ripping off layers of old shingles and putting new shingles in place. Replacing the roof was a key priority as we wanted to make sure that after three years of planning and work, which included moving the depot, building a new foundation and making structural repairs, water damage wouldn’t cause any additional deterioration.

The next step in the restoration process is to nominate the depot to the National Register of Historic Places, which – if approved – would allow the project to qualify for matching grant funds. Rachel Patton, executive director of Preserve Arkansas, is working to prepare a draft nomination by a Sept. 4 deadline so that it can be considered during the December meeting of the State Review Board for Historic Preservation.

Recent fundraising hadn’t generated enough to cover the cost of roofing materials, so Buford Suffridge, president of the Perry County Historical & Genealogical Society, says its members voted to provide about $5,000 the group had in its funds to cover the cost of materials. R&A Roofing of Houston, Arkansas, run by brothers Randy Wood and Raymond Wood, donated labor to replace the roof. Weiss Do It Best Lumber in Perryville also donated $500 in supplies. In-kind donations like that have been great as the project has progressed.

A worker picks through the discarded old roofing shingles that had been tossed on the ground below.

A worker picks through the discarded old roofing shingles that had been tossed on the ground below.

Underneath the mostly rotted old shingles were the original pressed metal shingles from when the depot was constructed. While it would have been great to have kept the metal shingles on the roof, they would not have effectively protected the structure. But we saved many of the original shingles to eventually display inside the depot when it becomes a community meeting place and museum.

Once the old shingles were off, Suffridge walked around the depot assessing the original wood underneath which was fully exposed for the first time. We had previously been limited to what could be seen looking up at the ceiling inside the depot.

“The decking was in remarkably good shape, probably due to the fact that it was old growth timber. The growth rings were so close together,” he said, referencing the virgin pine timber that likely grew over hundreds of years and would have been used at the time of the depot’s construction.

“I looked at one board that they had cut off and thrown down on the ground and the growth rings were so close on that pine board you couldn’t even count them.”

Suffridge shows a piece of the original virgin pine timber that was used in the depot's construction.

Suffridge shows a piece of the original virgin pine timber that was used in the depot’s construction.

The wood is especially strong and that’s likely why the depot, despite decades of neglect, remains in relatively good condition. Suffridge speculates the lumber came from one of two big sawmills that were located along the track in the nearly town of Bigelow.

After removing shingles, the roofing underlayment was rolled over the surface of the wood which will help protect it from water. Workers then began putting on the shingles.

After removing the old shingles, workers begin unrolling the underlayment on the west side of the Perry depot.

After removing the old shingles, workers begin unrolling the underlayment on the west side of the Perry depot.

Some rotted rafters had been replaced in the ceiling earlier in the year, primarily along the north side of the depot where the overhang had been trimmed off to build a locomotive servicing shop directly behind it in the mid-1980s. The full width of the overhang was restored in April.

By 6:30 that evening, the roofing crew had completed the job and was cleaning up. There are so many historical elements of the depot, but names and dates written by former employees in the ceiling and walls of the freight room is one component we especially want to protect.

Suffridge called it a relief to finally be at a point where the depot is safe until we eventually raise more money for its restoration.

“Now at least we know the inside of the depot is protected from the rain and we won’t be getting any damage to the writings that are on the inside of it like we were concerned about,” he said.

Workers steadily progressed laying shingles toward the east side of the depot.

Workers steadily progressed laying shingles toward the east side of the depot.

Rachel Patton with Preserve Arkansas had first reached out to me in 2017, shortly after my book Rock Island Railroad in Arkansas had been released. She told me of the idea to move the depot to keep it from being demolished by the shortline Little Rock & Western Railway, which acquired that stretch of former Rock Island track. Most recently, she had been waiting for work to replace the roof to be completed before moving forward with the application process to get the national designation.

“I was waiting for them to get as much of it done as they could,” Patton said, “to where the building’s appearance got to where it would be whenever it was considered for the National Register. So, I’m glad that they got the roof done when they did.”

A Little Rock & Western crossing signal is in the foreground as workers attach shingles to the depot.

She has been providing guidance as the project has progressed on how to do things in a way so that the depot maintains its historical integrity. A key part of that involved keeping the depot along the tracks. The current property is adjacent to where the depot had been. The current piece of land had at one time been owned by the Rock Island and housed a water tank for steam engines. Today it’s owned by the City of Perry, which has a water pump there.

The application for the National Register of Historic Places is very comprehensive, Patton said, and includes two lengthy narrative sections. The first involves an architectural description, detailing what the building looks like, why it is architecturally significant and describes all of the exterior and interior features. Then there is a narrative description on the history of the building, including the history of the community. In this instance, the two are intertwined as Perry was created when the Choctaw, Oklahoma & Gulf Railroad laid this stretch of track in 1898, which within a few years would be taken over by the Rock Island in a hostile takeover.

How likely is it that we succeed in getting the Perry Depot on the National Register?

“I think we have really good odds,” Patton said.

The depot has been determined eligible for the National Register by the staff at the Arkansas Historic Preservation Program. National Register and Survey Coordinator Ralph Wilcox has followed the Perry Depot project closely, and we have consulted with him to ensure the depot would remain eligible in its new location.

Last year, the project received a nearly $10,000 grant from the Arkansas Economic Development Commission’s Division of Rural Services to create a meeting place and museum inside the depot. In April 2020, we received permission to reallocate about $1,900 in remaining grant funds for emergency repairs to the roof decking and eaves. These funds were all spent before the deadline in mid-May.

If we can get the depot on the National Register of Historic Places, that will open the door for more grant money, but most will require matching donations.

The crew from R&A Roofing nears completion of the new roof for the Perry depot.

“It is remarkable because it has been such a big effort on the part of the (Perry County) Historical Society and many local folks around Perry County who have contributed to the effort,” Patton said. “So it really is just a remarkable community effort that the depot is being restored and I think everybody’s really excited to see it’ll be back in use as a community center for the area and I think it’s really important to them and the whole town of Perry wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for the railroad.”

Beyond those who I’ve mentioned so far, there are a lot of people to thank for getting us to this point. Jimmy Middleton has been a liaison to many of the companies who have helped. Beverly Doremus, treasurer of the nonprofit Perry County Historical & Genealogical Society has kept the bills paid. Eva Coffman at Perry City Hall has also been a big help as the city provided the land and assumed ownership of the depot.

Then of course are the many people who have made donations of all size to help this project progress. Online donations can be made through our Go Fund Me account or checks can be sent to the address below. Checks should be made to the Perry County Historical Museum, which is part of the Perry County Historical & Genealogical Society.

Perry County Historical Museum
P.O. Box 1128
Perryville, AR 72126

On Sunday, August 9, railroad historian Bill Pollard, who had extensively photographed the Perry depot and been inside it many times over the last half-century, got to step inside the building in its new location. He and his wife Sharon joined Buford and Lynda Suffridge, myself and girlfriend Laura Bridges, to take a look at the interior of the depot at this point. No work has been done inside except for repairs to rafters and floor joists.

There’s no electricity connected to the depot right now, so we were limited to light coming in from the outside. Walking through, we envisioned the next steps that can be done during the restoration.

(Left to right) Buford Suffridge, Sharon Pollard, Laura Bridges, Lynda Suffridge and Bill Pollard inside the freight room of the depot on August 9, 2020.

Cheap paneling that was added in the telegrapher’s office, probably the 1950s, is peeling off, exposing the original wall. That has opened up what was the ticket counter to the colored waiting room. There’s also a lowered ceiling that was added in the office at some point that can be removed. The main waiting room still looks quite exquisite, painted blue and white, the final colors for the Rock Island before it was shut down in 1980.

At some point, once the COVID-19 pandemic has subsided and it’s safe to allow people inside, we hope to host an open house to let those who have expressed interest and support for the project, get a closer look. A timeline for finishing the restoration is unknown and dependent on a whole host of factors. Eventually, I’m confident the depot will be a charming place to hold community events, while also serving as a museum telling the story of the community and its former role as part of a major rail network.

You can read previous posts about the project at the link below:

Preserving the Former Rock Island Passenger Depot at Perry, Arkansas